Submitted to Sumner Newscow â€” On Saturday Nov. 16, Countryside Motors, in conjunction with General Motors, will conduct a special day of fundraising!With every new GM test drive a $10 donation will be made to the American Cancer Society in support of Breast Cancer awareness, as part of the Chevrolet Making Strides Campaign.Â People who come out to Countryside Motors on Saturday and test drive any Chevrolet or Buick, or test ride any Polaris ATV or UTVÂ or test one of the Hustler Turf products a donation will be given.It will be a great day to learn about all the new products and provide an opportunity to raise money for a great causeÂ by simply test driving a new car or truck!Â Countryside Motor sales representatives will be at the store from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., at its business in Wellington just four miles west of I-35 on U.S. 160.
by Tracy McCue, Sumner Newscow â€” Ever so often people are reminded why they love sports.The Oxford boys pulled off an upset Tuesday night that shook the hierarchy order of the South-Central Border League boys basketball standings. Oxford knocked off Udall, 39-37, on the road.Udall came in as the No. 7 ranked team in Class 1A-Div. I according to the latest Kansas Basketball Coaches Association poll.And much like K-State Wildcat fans stormed the court on Monday night after the big upset win over the Jayhawks, so did the Oxford Wildcat fans on Tuesday night. Was it “Wildcat Week?” Â “What a great high school basketball game and a great atmosphere,” Green said. “Udall was 14-1 and has a quality basketball team.”Oxford went into the hole early, trailing 10-2 after one quarter. But in the second, Oxford outscored Udall 13-10 and trailed 20-15 with renewed energy going into halftime.In the third quarter, Udall upped the lead back to eight and led 32-24 going into the final frame.But Oxford controlled the tempo thereafter.“We got after it on that end and really took them out of their spread dribble drive and forced them into some bad shots,” Green said.With 9.1 seconds to play, Oxford’s Timmie Catlin got fouled after breaking the press. He missed the free throw but Oxford made the stop on the other end to secure the two-point win.“This is one of the best defensive teams I’ve had in my time here and this game was won on the defensive end of the floor,” Green said. “This was a total team win for us.”Catlin led Oxford with 13. Other scorers include: Derek Williams with 10, Dexter Norris 6, Carson Crain 2, Tyler Eckstein 3, and Kurt Sloan 2.Udall’s scorers include: Perez 15, Weber 1, Martin 14, Williams 5, Welshans 2.Oxford was 7 of 14 from the free throw line and won without hitting a 3-pointer. Udall had seven treys.The Wildcats, 9-5 overall, have moved into a tie in the loss column with Udall in the SCBL race. Udall is 6-1 and Oxford is 4-1. West Elk is leading at 5-0.Of course, sub-state tournament positioning is the primary focus of a basketball coach. Green said Oxford could finish 14-6 or 15-5 which would land it as a No. 4 seed in a loaded sub-state out east that features Oswego, West Elk and the always loaded Pitt Colgan.Oxford travels to 2-14 (0-7) to Central on Friday.“We are on an NBA like schedule- three games this week, three games next week,” Green said.â€¢â€¢â€¢â€¢â€¢In girls action, Udall beat Oxford 50-44.Oxford led 13-7 at the end of the first quarter but Udall outscored the Wildcats 19-1 in the second quarter and never trailed thereafter.Scoring for Oxford were: Payne 21, Perez 2, Metz 16, Whitlock 4, Lawrenz 1. Udall was led by Bracheric with 20. Close Forgot password? Please put in your email: Send me my password! 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Thank you for your input. +3 Vote up Vote down siranch 1p · 339 weeks ago Colter Silhan 4pts for the Wildcats 🙂 Report Reply 0 replies · active 339 weeks ago -1 Vote up Vote down Common sense · 339 weeks ago Controlled the temple? Report Reply 0 replies · active 339 weeks ago +2 Vote up Vote down siranch 1p · 339 weeks ago My bad, 2pts for Silhan. This was a great game for our guys, our school, and our community! Report Reply 0 replies · active 339 weeks ago 0 Vote up Vote down Froggy44 · 338 weeks ago Oxford played a great game that night. Glad I was there to witness a well deserved victory and the place went explosive after the win at the end !! Oxford has lost to Udall in alot of close games the last few years and it is nice to see the underdog finally win and play to there potential !! And be so humble and show great sportsmanship !! Report Reply 0 replies · active 338 weeks ago Post a new comment Enter text right here! 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Ryleigh Buck – Wellington, Kansas.by Tracy McCue, Sumner Newscow â€” Thereâ€™s no rest for the weary. For Ryleigh Buck, 17-years-young, her schedule looks like one occupied by a corporate executive.Buck is putting away the baseball pants and the cap, picking up her glove and finding a yellow ball beforeÂ heading to California to play girls softball for a national traveling team in California. She wonâ€™t be returning to Wellington until August 10 where she will embark on her senior year at WHS.Buck, as most of you know was a member of the U.S. Womenâ€™s Baseball team which returned from Toronto, Canada, as gold medalists. The U.S. team made history becoming the first womenâ€™s baseball squad to win a gold medal in the Pan Am games.Womenâ€™s Baseball is still an anomaly. After we first reported that Buck was trying out for the U.S. team, one of the first comments after the story was â€œdonâ€™t you mean softball?â€ Baseball has traditionally been reserved for the boys. The baselines are 90 feet compared to 60 feet for softball. The pitching mound is 60 feet to the softball circleâ€™s 45 feet. The center field wall is usually 400 feet while in softball its 200.In the Pan-Am games, just one woman hit a home run in baseball.Some may question whether baseball will ever become a major sport in the womenâ€™s athletic world where softball has become the summer pastime.â€œOh, I like softball,â€ Buck said about her preference. â€œBut I have to admit this is a lot of fun as well.â€Buck during her pinch run in Pan Am games.Buck didnâ€™t play much at the Pan Am games. She never got to the plate or play on defense. Her lone appearance came in the top of the sixth inning as a pinch runner in a rather easy 9-0 U.S. victory over Puerto Rico in a pool play game Thursday.There are several reasons for this. First of all, if you watched these women play, they are dang good. After all this is “Team USA.”Buck was also a newcomer – one of four girls out of 36 who tried out and made the team. She was also one of the youngest players on the team.Most of these women were older, including shortstop Tamara Holmes, who is a 40-year-old fire fighter. Some have already played for college softball teams.And then there is Sarah Hudek, the daughter of former major leaguer John Hudek, who signed a college scholarship to play menâ€™s baseball at the Louisianaâ€™s Bossier Parish Community College.Most of the players on the team for whatever reason grew up playing baseball instead of softball.While both the U.S. men baseball team and the womenâ€™s softball team lost their gold medal games, the U.S. womenâ€™s baseball team clinched gold in rather easy fashion.Ryleigh Buck getting instructions from Team USA coach Jonathan Pollard.The U.S. women opened with an impressive 10-6 victory over Venezuela to open the tournament. The U.S. then buried Cuba 11-0 before beating up Puerto Rico.But game four on Friday was the big game. U.S. was to play Canada in front of a raucous home crowd at Ajax Sports Complex east of Toronto.The way the Pan Am tournament worked, all teams play in a pool and the top three teams are then bracketed for the medal finals. Two teams play the bronze medal game with the top pool team waiting the winner.A loss on Friday for either the U.S. or Canada would not be the end of the world, but it made for a difficult road ahead. The loser would have to play an extra game, and as any baseball aficionado knows itâ€™s always about the pitching.Canada was throwing their ace, Jessica BÃ©rubÃ©. And for three innings, it looked as if this game would go down to the wire with some kind of walk off run to end the game.USA Women’s Baseball team at opening ceremonies of gold medal game (USA Baseball photo).But U.S. scored three runs in the top of the fourth using a blast by third baseman Michelle Snyder to break a scoreless stalemate.Then twice in the later innings, U.S. would thwart Canada rallies, which managed to get girls on third base with no outs in two of the last three innings and yet finish with just one run in a 3-1 defeat.Nobody would say it out loud, but the conventional wisdom amongst everyone after Fridayâ€™s game was Canada was done. The red maple leaf team had to get through Venezuela on Saturday, and deplete its pitching which already lacked the depth that the U.S. had.On Sunday, the U.S. team would explode with 12 hits taking a 5-0 lead en route to an 11-3 victory. The Canadians would finally score on the Americans in the top of the fourth with three runs, but the U.S. responded with three runs in the fifth and sixth inning to clinch victory.Buck is now a gold medal winner, something that probably no Wellington, Kans. athlete can say.Her mother, Sheila, said the gold medal will be framed with her Team USA jersey.As far as Ryleigh in the future, she said she doesnâ€™t know what her future will be in baseball. She has already returned to her roots in softball. She will play for her dad, T.D. Buck, this spring as a shortstop for the Wellington Crusaders.And then she has verbally committed to play for Central Florida University.The U.S. baseball team will congregate again next year. But the spotlight wonâ€™t be there. 2016 is an Olympic year, and womenâ€™s baseball is not part of the 2016 Summer Olympics in Rio deJaneiro, Brazil.Maybe in 2020, womenâ€™s baseball will be an official Olympic sport. By that time, Ryleigh will be 22. 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Please explain why you are flagging this comment in the text box below and submit your report. The blog admin will be notified. Thank you for your input. +1 Vote up Vote down Crusader Pride · 263 weeks ago Awesome job, congrats. We are so proud of you. The highlight of a summer of sports. Report Reply 0 replies · active 263 weeks ago +2 Vote up Vote down Local · 263 weeks ago Congratulations Ryleigh! Report Reply 0 replies · active 263 weeks ago 0 Vote up Vote down Monty Schmitz · 263 weeks ago Congratulations Ryleigh! I know your grandma Barbara is mighty proud of you. Your grandpa Gary, although he may not say it, is proud of you also. I say this because Gary is my first cousin. Therefore, I am quit familiar of his and my families feelings. I congratulate TD and Sheila on raising your children. Report Reply 0 replies · active 263 weeks ago Post a new comment Enter text right here! 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by Tracy McCue and James Jordan, Sumner Newscow â€” Tuesday night, a Wellington resident requested the city council should ask for the resignation of one of its member over a comment made at a previous work session. But the council member in question, Kip Etter, said his comment was misinterpreted.Kip EtterDuring the audience portion of the council meeting, Diana Page said the council member had referred to a member of the city staff as a â€œBTK killer.â€Etter said he did no such thing and used the BTK reference as an example of the dangers of giving a code compliance officer too much authority.The comment occurred during a work session held on Oct. 19, 2015 at the council chambers in which a lengthy discussion took place among the Wellington City Council, city staff workers, chamber officials, and landlord property owners over the possible revamping of the Wellington Compliance Codes (see minutes of the meeting below). One of the proposals is giving the code compliance officer the authority to levy fines against offending property owners who do not comply to city code.Page, a financial consultant for Edward Jones and president of the Wellington Planning Commission, said she had heard during the Oct. 19, 2015 meeting, a code compliance officer was being referred to as a BTK killer. She did not mention Etter by name during her speech.She said she was worried that a Wichita television station was coming down to do a story on the matter and that would create adverse publicity for the community.Page said the city code compliance officer has filed a grievance report over the statement and she worries that the comment could cost the city millions of dollars if a defamation lawsuit was filed. She also requested that the council needs to delve into financial records of council members. She also worried about a statement made by Wellington Mayor Shelley Hansel, who said that if utility rates were not raised, the city would go bankrupt.Page did not return Sumner Newscow requests for a follow up interview.According to several sources, Page did not attend the Oct. 19 work session meeting.Wellington City Manager Eckert confirmed that a grievance report was issued, but he canâ€™t discuss it because it is a personnel issue.â€¢â€¢â€¢â€¢How the statement came aboutEtter sat down to talk with Sumner Newscow on Friday. Etter said he understands criticism comes with the territory, but he was surprised at being called on the carpet at last week’s meeting over a comment he had. An audio recording of the meeting in question does show he used the reference, but he was not making an accusation against any city employees. The conversation starts concerning the possible assessment of a penalty implied if a citizen did not clean up its property. Here is the recording: Council member Kelly Green:Â If they havenâ€™t cleaned it up the Judge assesses a fine?Wellington Inspector Richard Jack: Yes.Green: So then they pay the fine or they go to jail? Jack: Yes, pay or they can go to jail.Green: But thereâ€™s no come back and pay another fine in six months orâ€¦â€¦Etter: Well thatâ€™s what weâ€™re talking about with review and compromise.Â I mean I would just urge in the making of thisâ€¦.Green: â€¦to get done, if itâ€™s a fifty dollar fine and they only have to pay that every six months whenever it goes through the prosecutor â€¦.Jack: But when the Judge says itâ€™s a thousand dollars, most people take that very seriously.Green:Â Exactly.Etter: Thatâ€™s where we go back to the review and the compromise implemented into it.Â I would urge when youâ€™re putting this together, one thing I am going to caution is, is that, while Richard you may say that youâ€™re not going to do that, but when youâ€™re gone, the next person comes in, whoâ€™s going to say that theyâ€™re not going to have the understanding and authority. We just had, I mean, Iâ€™m not trying to bring up old things, but you know, Park City had a BTK killer, and you hear about the, the a, to the extent that he took his authority as a code officer, I do not want to get into that kind of situation, nor will I supportâ€¦Green: Did you just say the BTK killer?Etter:I did, because he was a compliance officerâ€¦â€¦(Many people talking at onceâ€¦..can not distinguish who is saying what.)Etter:Â Code compliance officer, yeah.Â If thereâ€™s not checks and balances, I will not support it. The audio recording was made available after a request was made to the city managerâ€™s office.In the board meeting minutes which was approved by the council on Tuesday, the comment was not specifically mentioned. It stated: There was more discussion regarding review and compromise of the Codes.Â Council member Etter said if there were not checks and balances he would not support it.Â â€œI had no idea that was coming,â€ Etter said of Tuesdayâ€™s nightâ€™s comment by Page. Etter said Eckert had talked to Page before the meeting, but he said Friday he did not know what she wanted to talk about. Customarily, if a city wishes to address the council, it must be put on the agenda. Page was not placed on the agenda prior to the meeting, only asking Eckert if she could speak before the meeting started. Etter spoke with Hansel, who allowed Page to address the council. Etter said he is all for allowing people to speak at meetings, if they want people to be on the agenda so they can be prepared for issues that might be brought up. He is not opposed to letting people speak anyway, even if they have not been put on the agenda beforehand. But he was taken aback by the accusation. â€œI felt like it was personally pointed toward me,â€ Etter said. â€œBut that is not what I said in any way.â€ What Etter said he meant In the work session, the issue under discussion was the power of code compliance officers. A code compliance officer, a job now occupied by Aaron Norton, currently cannot write tickets or give fines if a property owner is in violation of city code. Some feel they should be able to do that because people are not motivated to do anything when there is no punishment, or cost involved. Etter has mixed feelings about that issue, but does not want code enforcement officers to have power that is not checked in some way. He said he wants to see accountability there. Etter has in the past argued for giving property owners more time to work on their property, and has at times questioned why certain properties are being singled out for prosecution while others that are just as bad are left alone. â€œI am all about cleaning up the city,â€ he said. â€œWe have a problem with blight. It is embarrassing to have dilapidated buildings. I just want to be sure there are checks and balances in place.â€ Etter said he perhaps should not have made the BTK comment, but his intent was not to criticize or accuse any city employees. The BTK killer was a code enforcement officer in Wichita when he was caught for the murder of 10 people between 1974 and 1991. He is currently serving 10 consecutive life sentences at El Dorado Correctional Facility in Kansas. Etter said he should have perhaps used a different analogy, but his point was that people should not have too much power. He said he does want to see the town cleaned up and wants there to be an efficient system in place that encourages people to fix up their property. Currently, the city can tear down a building and put an assessment on the property, which the owner will have to pay with his or her taxes. That is the case unless it goes to a tax sale, in which case the owner loses the property and the city does not get its money for tearing down the building. There is a â€œclean slateâ€ approach when someone buys a piece of property at a tax sale. The hope is they will build something and become a taxpayer. But there are a lot of these properties around town, Etter said. A few times people have met with code enforcement officers and felt the demands to get a place back into code were too stringent, Etter said. He also has advocated the city get involved with salvaging operations in some way to take anything of value that could be used to offset city expenses. Etter owns rental properties himself, and has restored some older houses that were in bad shape and now he rents them out. He has done a little salvage work here and there, but does not have an actual salvaging business. He does not want to do that himself, but feels the city could recoup some of its money if it worked out a way to have the properties salvaged. Etter said he is also interested in preserving anything that might be of historical value. He added that the state has regulations concerning what can be done with money from salvaging old buildings. Once the city recoups its money, if there is any money left, it has to go back to the property owner, for instance. He has also been perceived as being against code compliance because he has disagreed with them on a few issues. He said he thinks the problem really is that code compliance has not been given specific direction from the city council. â€œEvery city is unique. We need to have specific criteria for which houses are torn down,â€ he said. â€œWe need to be able to quantify what we are doing, get data from what we are doing, and we need to know if an individual property meets the criteria,â€ he said. If such a system were in place, he would not be opposed to allowing code compliance workers to write tickets for violations. Even though Etter was the recipient of criticism at the meeting last week, he still wants people to come to the council with their concerns. â€œWe (the city) can do a better job of communication,â€ Etter said. â€œBut people also have a responsibility to do some research.â€ He said many times people approach council members about issues after something is passed, and rarely before. It would be helpful to get more input before they vote. He is also hoping to get started with video recordings of work sessions, like the ones done of regular meetings. It would help understand what previous councils were thinking when they passed various things.The work session meetingsPerhaps, the one thing that has not been demonstrated throughout other media outlets in Wellington, was the scope for which the statement made.These are the approved minutes of the meeting in hand. Sumner Newscow was not in attendance at the meeting until the final 20 minutes and missed this particular discussion.Wellington work session minutes – Oct. 19. Code Compliance. Mrs. Sue Rankin Wilson, who resides in Texas but owns and rents out the property located at 310 S. Jefferson, was present to address the Council and to show her support for the Cityâ€™s Code Compliance policies and procedures. Mrs. Wilson stated she would like the Code Compliance Officials to be able to write tickets to penalize property owners or leasers of the property who violate the Code. She spoke of issues her renters have had with neighbors for the last three years who have trash, weeds, and junk in their yards. Mrs. Wilson talked about having her fifty-year class reunion and presented a petition with twenty-five signatures of people who want the City cleaned up. She also presented emails from residents and past residents of Wellington regarding property neglect in Wellington. Mrs. Robin Hamilton, 704 South H Street was present to address the Council. Mrs. Hamilton said she is a twenty-year resident of Wellington. She told of two properties close to her house that have trash, vehicles, and junk (mattresses) in the yards. Mrs. Hamilton said the City property codes need teeth â€“ there needs to be consequences for violators. She is in support of the Code and enforcement. Mrs. Hamilton said they are building duplexes in the City and want the area to be cleaned up. She agreed with Mrs. Wilson that renters need to be ticketed if they violate code. Council member Korte asked if the two houses with mounds of trash are occupied. Mrs. Hamilton replied yes. She told the location of the properties. Mr. Kenny Moore, 918 E. Lincoln, a landlord, said he also has had complaints from renters regarding neighboring properties with trash in their yards. He said the renters donâ€™t want to live close to this. Mr. Moore mentioned semi trucks being parked on City streets and asked if that was legal. He also spoke about inoperable vehicles on streets and in yards for years and nothing has changed. Mr. Moore said there are thousands of tires up and down the alleys that harbor mosquitoes. Mr. Moore said the Code Compliance people are doing their jobs but need some help. He said when he has visitors coming to Wellington; the first thing they say is that the town needs to be cleaned up. Mayor Hansel thanked Mr. Moore for helping draw attention to the problems. City Manager Eckert said there was some discussion regarding a Property of the Month Club, so when people do clean up, they can get some sort of recognition for it. Council member Etter explained the proposed program is in its infancy but that he envisioned it could be like the Christmas lighting contest, with a possible credit on the winnerâ€™s utility bill. Council member Korte asked who would choose the winners. Council member Etter spoke of having the Chamber involved with the guidance of the City. Mayor Hansel asked Inspector Jack and Code Compliance Officials Cornejo and Norton what happens when there is a violation. City Attorney Brown asked if Staff is still having trouble getting Code violations enforced in Municipal Court. Mr. Norton replied yes. Mr. Norton described the Code violation process. He said the violations have to be visible from the street or an easement. There was discussion regarding the lengthy time it takes for cases to be prosecuted. Mr. Norton explained how the process works. There was more discussion. Mr. Jim Wilson, 310 S Jefferson, spoke about repeat offenders and that Staff has no control. City Attorney Brown asked Mr. Norton for the average time for it takes for Court action on a property that is not cleaned up. Mr. Norton answered from eight weeks to one year. He said in 2014, he did a case study; 350 notices were sent out, 275 complied within the time allotted or asked for more time; 50 violators appeared in Court. There was further discussion regarding the prosecutor and enforcements needed. Council member Green asked if the Cityâ€™s process is not working because it needs to be redone, or if itâ€™s not working because of a broken link. Mr. Norton said in May 2015, he presented options for possible amendments to the Code that would give Staff more authority to see things through. Council member Green asked Inspector Jack for his thoughts. Inspector Jack said it is very difficult for him, Mr. Norton, or Mr. Cornejo to do their jobs because of the way Staffâ€™s hands are tied on what they can do. He said he worked in Wichita for ten years, and as Attorney Brown pointed out, citations were issued, and violators went to Court. Not a letter, not fourteen days, and then more days given from the prosecutor. Mr. Jack said, you go to Court and the judge asks if it has been cleaned up/taken care of, did you paint your house, did you fix whatever, and if the answer was no, it was a $500 fine, or $1000 fine, or go to jail if they donâ€™t do what they are supposed to do. Mayor Hansel commented the City process seems archaic. Council member Green asked Mr. Jack if he agreed with the amendments proposed by Mr. Norton. Mr. Jack replied yes with review by the City Attorney. Council member Wetta asked what Wellington does different than other cities. Attorney Brown said there is a bottleneck. Mr. Norton said the IPMC (International Property Maintenance Code) was adopted by the City several years ago and is fantastic. He said it sets solid guidelines for cities to follow. Mr. Norton said he is a member of KACE (Kansas Association of Code Enforcements), and at the annual meetings he has a chance to speak with other cities regarding their property codes. He said some of the recommendations he made in May came from things that are working in other communities. Mr. Valentine asked Mr. Jack if he had the authority to write citations when he worked in Wichita. Mr. Jack replied yes. He said the Code Enforcement, Zoning, and Building staff all had the authority to do so. Council member Valentine asked how much time was allowed to get repairs done. Mr. Jack replied that it depended on the situation and the repairs needed. Council member Green asked for the details of the citations given in Wichita. Mr. Jack said he had a book to write the citation and he would write it out, physically hand it to the person and they would have ten to fourteen days, depending on when the next Court date was, to show up in Court. Just like a speeding ticket. He said the Judge would ask the person if the violation was taken care of and the person would either tell the judge yes, and Staff would go out the next day to check; or the violator would tell the judge they canâ€™t get it cleaned up for some reason and the Judge would take it from there. Council member Green said we would still need backing from the Court. Mr. Jack concurred. Audience member, Mr. Jim Brown, 1228 N. Jefferson, was recognized by Mayor Hansel. Mr. Brown asked what would happen if he was in the military and was gone for some time and even if he doesnâ€™t know if he has violated a code, he would get a citation. Mr. Jack said what Staff is proposing is to be able to write a citation and to be able to say yes, here is your citation, and if Staff says he is not here, he is off with the military, or he works for the railroad so is gone for two to three weeks, in those cases it would be different. Mr. Brown said he would not accept a citation if he did not even know what code he had violated. Mayor Hansel said certainly there are exceptions, but there are some repeat offenders that are known. Mr. Jack said he would not write a citation the first time unless it was (example) an unlicensed roofer, because we have Codes that require a license. There was more discussion regarding review and compromise of the Codes. Council member Etter said if there were not checks and balances he would not support it. Mrs. Sue Wilson commented there should probably be some exceptions for the elderly. She asked Mr. Jack if the citations written in Wichita were given to renters or property owners. Mr. Jack replied that the citations were given to the person occupying the property, with the driverâ€™s license used to fill out the citation. Mr. Norton said a speeding ticket is a pretty apt analogy, because not everyone who is pulled over gets a speeding ticket; the Police officer can give a warning. As far as people who would be unable to follow through, there is a new program in town called Brush with Kindness, which is actually an offshoot of Habitat for Humanity, in which help is given to people who need to weatherize their windows, or get rid of trash, or tow away an inoperable vehicle. Chamber of Commerce Executive Director Annarose White was present to address the Council. Director White said regarding the Brush with Kindness program, it is a program for homeowners specifically. She said there have been a few applications turned in but the people were asking for things not covered by the program. Director White reported that the Chamber is working with the Sumner County Economic Development Commission, and have the South Central Kansas Landlordâ€™s Association list of rentals available at the Chamber and have been adding it to the Chamber website. The number one hit on the Chamber website is people going to the Renting in Wellington page and looking for answers. Director White said of the foot traffic at the Chamber, they have renterâ€™s coming in with questions regarding safety of their rental but will not give their address, for fear of getting kicked out. She said the better housing the City can get, the better businesses will move in. She said the Chamber supports making the process more streamlined, which will help with the quality of life in Wellington. Mayor Hansel thanked Director White and said she is doing a great job. Mayor Hansel said as far as Code Compliance, City Attorney Brown and the Code Compliance Staff will work with the amendments and give the Chamber a final draft to be considered. Audience member Stan Irvin, spoke of imposing some kind of sanction on the landlord, as well as the renter. Council member Green said some Code violations are police issues. Mr. Jack said vehicles abandoned on the street are a police issue, and on the property or blocking a sidewalk are Code Compliance issues. Council member Green said semi trucks on the street are a police issue and they will tag it and tow it. Mayor Hansel recognized audience member Jim Fairbanks. He asked how different a trash violation is from a weed violation. He asked if City crews could clean up the trash and charge the violator as they do with weeds. Public Works Director Jones said there is a process for weeds that is similar to the condemnation process, which is a lengthy process of a notice, publication, a resolution that goes to the Council for blight and then another to get it cleaned up; very drawn out, probably at least four months. Director Jones said secondly, who do we get to clean it up. He said he cannot personally think of any department that could do this. He said we donâ€™t do City-wide clean-ups anymore because the last one took four weeks; to go through the entire town with two loaders and four dump trucks and eight staff members. He said what is being talked about tonight has been going on for fifteen years. Director Jones, and Council member Green agreed that the Clean-up Committee cannot pick up the amount of trash that the people are generating, they can only collect from people who care enough to bring their trash to the curb, and they are getting free landfill privileges because they donâ€™t have to take their trash and junk to the landfill; the City is doing it. City Attorney Brown said the problem is the people see the City and Committee are going to clean up their property every year and they donâ€™t have to do a thing. Mr. Jack Reimer, Combined Trade Board member who technically lives outside the City limits was recognized. He commented that the City has some landlords that do a really good job taking care of their properties and they fight this all the time. He said if the issue is fixed in the Court it would take away the ticketing issue. Mr. Norton responded that there would still be the issue of recidivism; the issue of people who continue to violate the Code. He added there is no incentive to keep the violators from doing it again and again. There was further discussion regarding the Court process versus the citation process. Mrs. Wilson asked if there was a bulk trash pick-up day. Director Jones said it is on a case by case basis. If a customer calls they will go pick it up. If something is left by the trash can, the Sanitation workers put a ticket on the item asking the resident to call for a pickup. Mayor Hansel said citizens also have the option of renting a two-yard dumpster. Mayor Hansel asked the Council if they wanted to continue with the agenda items. Council member Green replied that she would like to cover demolitions to let Mr. Norton know what the Council wants. She spoke about the Landlord Association, discussing how the inspections by Mr. Jack effect how the landlords do their job. She stated the Landlord Association fully understands and respects that Mr. Jack is following a code book that tells him what his job is. Council member Green said what the Landlord Association proposes is that a few people from the Combined Trade Board and a few interested parties from the Landlord Association, and a few from City Staff, sit down and have a brainstorming session. Mayor Hansel said she would like to form a Task Force, not a committee, but a Task Force that has a beginning and an end. She asked if anyone wanted to be a member. Mr. Kenny Moore commented that if landlords are going to have to hire someone to do work on their rental properties, the houses would not be â€œaffordableâ€. He said he feels like the landlords should be allowed to do their own work and then have it inspected. Those who volunteered for the Task Force were Kenny Moore, Jim Brown, Kelly Green, and Floyd Moore. Mayor Hansel asked that the 3 Engineering Staff members also be on the Task Force. There was further discussion regarding the Codes. Mr. Brown gave an example of wanting to fix up a house at 1222 N. Jefferson, but was told he would have to hire contractors to do the work. City Manager Eckert stated that the City adopted standard building codes and City Staff has to follow the Code, otherwise they are liable, for instance, if the house burns down due to faulty wiring that was not done by a qualified electrician. He said you could look at the Code and possibly modify a few rules, but keep in mind that Staff is enforcing the Codes that were inherited for safety. Follow us on Twitter. Close Forgot password? Please put in your email: Send me my password! Close message Login This blog post All blog posts Subscribe to this blog post’s comments through… RSS Feed Subscribe via email Subscribe Subscribe to this blog’s comments through… RSS Feed Subscribe via email Subscribe Follow the discussion Comments (37) Logging you in… Close Login to IntenseDebate Or create an account Username or Email: Password: Forgot login? 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Report Reply 0 replies · active 248 weeks ago +2 Vote up Vote down Meryl · 248 weeks ago So, if I’m reading Kip’s original comment right, the BTK Killer murdered people because we was a code compliance officer? It wasn’t because he was unhinged? It was his job that did it? Wow…I honestly don’t know if I’ve ever read something something so ignorant and disrespectful. Report Reply 5 replies · active 248 weeks ago +18 Vote up Vote down Meryl · 248 weeks ago Lage has a point. We should know if the council has any bad history with money since they’re in charge of our tax money. Report Reply 3 replies · active 248 weeks ago +33 Vote up Vote down jeff · 248 weeks ago Sorry to play the tape again and again but – Kelly Green should recuse herself from any and all discussion between or among landlord association, “city staff” / code compliance, and the violation-finders, and utility increases. She has her own personal agenda. Report Reply 0 replies · active 248 weeks ago +8 Vote up Vote down no name · 248 weeks ago Etter can try to sugar coat what he said. The whole reference and comparison of the code compliance position along with the BTK is sad and should be unacceptable. Why would any city employee respect a man who makes reference to any position and brings up one of the most horrific murderers ever. What is more troublesome is when Etter started down that line the City Manager should have shut that down immediately. I hope what ever the employee is asking for is accomplished. Just because your an elected official doesn’t put you above the people that serve our community. Report Reply 0 replies · active 248 weeks ago +10 Vote up Vote down Katie Norton · 248 weeks ago I have a problem with this statement, “He said he thinks the problem really is that code compliance has not been given specific direction from the city council.” Council-member Etter should know that it is not the job of the city council to be involved in day-to-day operations and to give “specific direction” to code compliance. The code compliance officer doesn’t answer to or report to the City Council. Report Reply 0 replies · active 248 weeks ago +4 Vote up Vote down Bob · 248 weeks ago I do not think there is a causal relationship between BTK becoming a psychopathic serial killer and unchecked code compliance. For Mr Etter to make this association is irresponsible and wrong. Mr Etter’s association seems to imply that My Norton or all code compliance officers would become psychopathic serial killer if not kept in check. I do not believe Mr Etter actually meant to make this association or believe Mr Norton would become a pychopathic serial killer with the power to fine people but I do think the city should issue an official apology and keep any personal bias toward code compliance out of official duty. Ask got forgiveness and move forward. Report Reply 0 replies · active 248 weeks ago +10 Vote up Vote down Nobody Important · 248 weeks ago So let me get this straight…we have a hospital that can’t pay its bills, and a local government that can’t manage its finances, and this…….is what ya’ll are worried about???? Shameful Report Reply 1 reply · active 248 weeks ago +11 Vote up Vote down Carolyn · 248 weeks ago “According to several sources, Page did not attend the Oct. 19 work session meeting.” In other words Page was spreading second hand information. Typical. Report Reply 2 replies · active 248 weeks ago +4 Vote up Vote down LiveWell? · 248 weeks ago It may have been second hand information to Ms. Page, but to those of us in attendance at the meeting, we heard it first hand, not to mention there’s an audio recording of the meeting. Kudos to Ms. Page for standing up and trying to make Mr. Etter accountable for his actions. Mr. Etter has no business being an elected official, when he can’t conduct himself in an appropriate, professional manner. Report Reply 0 replies · active 248 weeks ago 123Next » Post a new comment Enter text right here! Comment as a Guest, or login: Login to IntenseDebate Login to WordPress.com Login to Twitter Go back Tweet this comment Connected as (Logout) Email (optional) Not displayed publicly. Name Email Website (optional) Displayed next to your comments. Not displayed publicly. If you have a website, link to it here. Posting anonymously. 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Ted Davis– thank you for creating industry and jobs for Wellington. I know there have been many like him. Report Reply 0 replies · active 222 weeks ago +4 Vote up Vote down Frank Gerberding · 222 weeks ago The world is a better place because of the heart of this humble man. May all of us remember where we came from and help others when we see a need. Ted Davis has blessed all who have had the honor of knowing this gentle giant. I have very fond memories of Ted and to this day, reflect back to how is helped and encouraged me. God Bless You – Ted. Report Reply 0 replies · active 222 weeks ago Post a new comment Enter text right here! Comment as a Guest, or login: Login to IntenseDebate Login to WordPress.com Login to Twitter Go back Tweet this comment Connected as (Logout) Email (optional) Not displayed publicly. Name Email Website (optional) Displayed next to your comments. Not displayed publicly. If you have a website, link to it here. Posting anonymously. 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Tweet this comment Cancel Submit Comment Subscribe to None Replies All new comments Sumner Newscow report â€” Tenneil Cobb, a 2002 Wellington High School graduate who became a television producer and writer; David Taggart, a 1969 WHS graduate who would become the longest running treasurer for the Coca-Cola Company; and Ted Davis, a 1941 WHS graduate, who would become one of the community’s most successful entrepreneurs have become the 2016 Crusader Wall of Recognition inductees.The three will be recognized during WHS Class Day Ceremony on Thursday at 7 p.m. The honorees will also be featured at the weekly Chamber Coffee and part of an all-school assembly during the day.The following is a biography written by Rick Phelps, WHS social studies teacher and Wall of Recognition board member of the three inductees:Tenneil CobbTenneil Cobb – WHS Class of 2002Tenneil B. Cobb is a television producer and writer. While at Wellington High School she played first-chair saxophone, lettered in cheerleading, and traveled the U.S. speaking and volunteering as a trustee of Key Club/Kiwanis International. She graduated from WHS in 2002 and was named a Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Scholar.After graduation, Tenneil attended Brown University in Providence, RI.Â She is the first female graduate of WHS to ever graduate from an Ivy League school. While at Brown, she served on the boards of the Ivy Film Festival and Brown Film Society. She was also a cheerleader. She graduated from Brown University with a degree in American Civilization and an emphasis in Popular Culture.Tenneil got her start in television by interning for the writers at CBSâ€™s Late Show with David Letterman. She has focused her career on producing programming with a comedic bent. She has worked on Bravoâ€™s Watch What Happens Live, OWNâ€™s The Rosie Show, Discoveryâ€™s Moonshiners, NBC’s The Marriage Ref, and NBCâ€™s Last Comic Standing. She has also produced and written digital series for YouTube, Sonyâ€™s Crackle, and Yahoo. Sheâ€™s worked for Oprah, Jerry Seinfeld, and Wanda Sykes.Â Currently, she is producing a new sketch comedy show for MTV.David Taggart – WHS Class of 1969Â David TaggartDavid Marshall Taggart was the son of Judge James Howard Taggart and Mrs. Dorothy Taggart, who served as WHS librarian for many years. David’s classmates voted him “Best Leader,â€ and he was well liked and respected by students and staff alike. He was President of the Student Federation, a member of KAY Club and the Letterman’s Club; he played varsity football, basketball and tennis.Â Following graduation from WHS, David was identified by Princeton Alum Gordon Beaham as one of the most talented students in the Midwest, and Beaham recruited him to become the first WHS graduate to attend Princeton University. While at Princeton, David played on an undefeated freshmen football team and played intramural basketball. Princeton is also where he met his future wife, Ruth Lyon Berkelman. To earn money to help pay for his education, David worked several on-campus jobs as well as teaching tennis lessons in the Princeton, N.J. township. He graduated in 1973 and was a lifelong supporter of Princeton, where his children, Kimberly and John, both graduated and where a scholarship has been established in Davidâ€™s name.On his college application David wrote that he wanted to work for a big company, and he eventually did, becoming the longest serving Treasurer of TheCoca-Cola Company to date. His work with The Coca-Cola Company in Atlanta, Ga. followed a graduate degree in business from Harvard Business School in 1979. A man of great integrity and quiet strength, he volunteered his expertise to the government when the big banks began to fail in 2008 and the same year was named one of the top 100 influential experts in finance globally.Supporting the Atlanta community for many years, David served on the Board of Directors of the Atlanta Downtown Improvement District, provided dinners to the homeless, and coached youth soccer. As a strong advocate for education, he served as a member of a national board to promote educational programs for high school math and science teachers. He was a mentor to many, and he was always willing to listen to and support young people.David was a lifelong athlete. He ran in the Boston Marathon during graduate school, and he enjoyed almost all team sports as well as hiking, biking and running. He was also a great lover of music. He played drums in the high school band and later became an expert in the music of the sixties and seventies.For all his many accomplishments, David took his greatest pride in his children, Kimberly and John.Ted Davis – WHS Class of 1941Ted DavisMr. Davis’s employees were fond of saying “anything Ted touches turns to gold.” Â This seems to be true in many different ways but Ted Davis being the humble man he is always is quick to credit others for his successes.Â He credits his parents, the employers he had as a youth, his business partners, employees and also his education and experiences gained as a WHS graduate.Â Mr. Davis has also spent his lifetime showing his gratitude by giving back to his alma mater, his community, his country, his family and friends.Â As a WHS student Ted began working part-time at age 14 for Cooks Drug Store as a soda jerk and later for Monroe’s Clothing Store.Â Ted also played football and basketball and he is very proud of the fact that both his junior and senior years the Crusaders were AVL Champions and he earned All Ark Valley honors as an offensive guard and end as well as defensive halfback/linebacker despite weighing only 135 pounds. Ted continued giving to the Crusader football team after graduation first as a scout then as a member of the chain gang crew for nearly 40 years.After graduation Ted began working in Wichita for Clarkson and Startz making aircraft parts.Â The company later moved to Wellington and is now Clarks Manufacturing.Â Ted also earned his pilots license in 1942 and has flown 4,650 hours.Â In 1943 duty called and Ted joined the Navy during WW II.Â He was assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Markus Island.Â The Navy would not allow him to fly because he is color blind but because of his experience as a pilot and with aircraft he was made a crew chief Â in charge of one of the planes.Â During his service his ship came under fire numerous times and was struck by two kamikaze attacks.Â Ted also survived going overboard while going to catch a pass while playing football on the deck.After the war Ted returned home to Wellington and became involved in many successful business ventures.Â One of Ted’s first businesses used scrap aluminum from the war to make and sell Sunbonnet awnings for homes and businesses.Â He also built and sold concrete incinerators for home use.Â Ted later designed and got a patent for an aluminum topper for pick up trucks that sold in Montgomery Ward and Sears and Roebuck catalogs. Making toppers and campers became a new business in Wellington, Sportsman Coach.Â In the late 1950’s Ted and his partners Don Schultz and Jack Glamann bought Midwest Inc. and later in the 60’s they joined Joe LeJuerrne to start Lamar Electro-Air.Â In 1968 Ted became a partner with John T. Stewart III in Welco becoming vice president and general manager until 1992. Under Mr. Davis’s supervision all the generators for mobile hospitals during the Vietnam War were manufactured in Wellington.Â Ted also helped create and design an accordion type door for airplane hangers that to this day is still manufactured and sold by Horton Inc. of Wellington. These doors are found in airports throughout the U.S.As a well respected leader Mr. Davis has served the community in many ways.Â Ted led committees that were responsible for the Wellington Golf Course acquiring grass greens, an automated watering system and the 1980 club house addition.Â He is a past director of Â the Wellington Economic Development Corporation, he was Exalted Ruler of the Wellington Elks Lodge and commander of the American Legion.Â Ted also served as director of the Great Plains Diabetes Research Charity, was a co-chair for the Four Winds Girl Scout Council, Â and a member of the Wellington Board of Education from 1962 through 1967 acting as President for four of his six years. Â Mr. Davis owned a vintage Rolls Royce which he shared with many young people in Wellington.Â Ted was the chauffeurÂ and drove for many newlyweds and WHS Prom dates for over 4o years.Â Mr. Davis currently serves on the Board of Director for the Security State Bank a position, he has held for 51 years.Â In 1995, Mr. Davis was recognized by the Wellington area Chamber of Â Commerce for his many contributions to the community with the Distinguished Service Award.Follow us on Twitter.
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Joel Embiid, 76ers Managing Partner Josh Harris, and Co-Managing Partner David Blitzer Join Forces to Provide $1.3 Million to Penn Medicine for Critical Support of Health Care Workers Fighting COVID-19#TodayWeRise x #PhilaUnite: https://t.co/IH1QXf4mie— Philadelphia 76ers (@sixers) April 3, 2020″The only way for us to get through this terrible global crisis is to ensure a safe work environment for health care professionals and ultimately find a treatment for COVID-19,” Harris added. “We are very proud to partner with the incredible team at Penn Medicine, who are tirelessly working towards this by identifying immunity in our brave doctors and nurses.University of Pennsylvania president Amy Gutmann thanked Embiid, Harris and Blitzer for their aid in “helping us to understand COVID-19 through the lens of precision medicine.””We will take this new and powerful knowledge about how our bodies react to the virus and use it to protect our healthcare heroes, sharing these lessons with the city of Philadelphia and across the world,” Gutmann added, Joel Embiid and the Philadelphia 76ers have teamed up to donate $1.3 million to Penn Medicine for critical support of healthcare workers fighting the coronavirus.COVID-19 has wreaked havoc globally, with more than 1 million confirmed cases and over 58,800 deaths. MORE: Sixers co-owner turning company’s MLB jerseys into protective gearSports have been brought to a standstill amid the coronavirus pandemic, with the NBA among the leagues on hiatus around the world.Embiid, along with 76ers managing partner Josh Harris and co-managing partner David Blitzer, made a significant contribution to the funding campaign for COVID-19 antibody testing of frontline healthcare workers, identifying those with potential immunity.”During this pandemic, many doctors and nurses are working like soldiers on the front lines of a war and they need to be provided with as much armor as possible in this battle,” Embiid, Philadelphia’s All-Star center, said. “COVID-19 antibody testing can help Philadelphia health care workers at this critical time, and we need to do everything possible to help those heroes who are putting their lives at risk to help us.”
Indeed, there were moments in the early stages of his career when Bradshaw was not treated royally by Steelers fans, such as the afternoon in October 1973 when he injured his shoulder and fans either cheered that development or the sight of backup Terry Hanratty trotting on to replace him.Try to imagine, though, a No. 1 overall pick in 2014 who ranks 17th in passer rating and 20th in completion percentage in his third year, then 22nd in rating and 18th in completion percentage in his fourth year, then loses his job in training camp to a guy with three career starts. That’s where Bradshaw stood in 1974. In today’s NFL, Bradshaw becomes Marcus Mariota.In actuality, Bradshaw got back the starting job after six games — in which the Steelers went 4-1-1 with Joe Gilliam in charge — and won his first Super Bowl while passing for a combined 191 yards in the AFC championship game and Super Bowl.He didn’t show consistent glimpses of excellence until 1975, his sixth year in the league, when he completed 57.7 percent of his passes for 18 touchdowns and only 9 interceptions. That began a run of six seasons over seven years — he missed nearly half of 1976 with injuries — in which Bradshaw ranked with the very best in the game.MORE: Steelers’ worst draft regret involves a QBRoethlisberger, by contrast, was an immediate smash with the Steelers. He won his first 13 starts. He was in command of the team for a Super Bowl victory in his second season and another in his fifth, and then made it back to the big game in his seventh season but lost.He has kept the team relevant for nearly two decades. They have not had a losing season since his arrival in 2004. That’s 16 seasons, although he did not contribute to the last because he blew out his elbow in the season’s second week. Aside from 2006, following his motorcycle accident, when he threw 23 interceptions and only 18 touchdown passes, he never has produced a bad season. And he has been brilliant at least as often as Bradshaw: in 2014, when he threw for 32 touchdowns and nine picks; in 2016, when the totals were 29 and 13.Adjusted passer rating is a statistic designed to work across eras. Roethlisberger’s best single season in that category was 2005, when he recorded a 68.3, and he has posted 11 seasons of better than 56. Bradshaw’s best year as 67.47 in 1978. He had seven seasons above 56. Roethlsiberger has won an average of 10 starts per season, even counting time missed with injuries. He has led the league in passing yards twice, in yards per game three times, reflecting his heightened importance on a team struggling to rebuild its defense in the salary cap era. He has been the starting quarterback for 37 more Steelers victories than Bradshaw.He has thousands more passing yards and dozens more TD passes, but playing in the current era aided Roethlisberger’s passing numbers, which is why they’re not really part of the discussion, Bradshaw’s greater team success, though, was assisted by the absence of free agency. If the Steelers of the 1970s made the right call in drafting a player, which they did often, they could hang onto the player until he was ready to retire: Joe Greene, Lynn Swann, Mike Webster, Jack Lambert, Jack Ham and so many others. If you suspect Terry Bradshaw merely was being humble and magnanimous when he appeared on the radio in Pittsburgh and declared Ben Roethlisberger to be the greatest quarterback in Steelers history, you probably are correct. But so is he.About Big Ben being better, I mean. The problem seems to be that many recall Bradshaw only at his best: four Super Bowl rings, the beautiful passes to Lynn Swann in Super Bowl 10 and to John Stallworth in Super Bowl 14. But that’s like calling the Clash the greatest rock band ever because they had five strong years while the Rolling Stones have been there grinding out great music for more than half a century.Many make it as simple as this: Bradshaw won four Super Bowls, Roethlisberger won two, therefore Bradshaw is greater.The corollary to that is that Mark Rypien, Jeff Hostetler and Brad Johnson all won once, which makes each of them greater than Dan Marino.Obviously, it is more complicated.NFL DRAFT: Where Bradshaw ranks among No. 1 QBsNeither are we going to stop to presenting Roethlisberger’s dramatically superior passing statistics: more yards, more touchdowns, better accuracy. His superiority in these categories is partly a product of the different brand of football played during the present time.Those who want to use era as a device to favor Bradshaw, though, insist he would have put up better numbers in the more pass-oriented 21st century. However true that may be, it ignores that this period also is downright unforgiving to quarterbacks who don’t succeed immediately. The cast around Roethlisberger has continued to evolve, often rapidly, sometimes capriciously. The Steelers smartly drafted Le’Veon Bell in the second round in 2013. They couldn’t even get him to play for them in 2018 while trying to stuff $14.5 million in his pocket. They made Antonio Brown the highest-paid receiver in the NFL in 2017. He walked out on the team before the final game of his second season under that contract.Bradshaw was selected for only three Pro Bowls in his career. Roethlisberger has made it six times, even in an era when Peyton Manning and Tom Brady were active and playing in the same conference. The best rival quarterbacks in the AFC during Bradshaw’s time were Fouts and Bob Griese. It’s not the same.Bradshaw himself admitted to all this, in so many words, when he spoke last week. Few believed he was being sincere. Whether or not he was being honest, though, he was being truthful. (Getty Images) https://images.daznservices.com/di/library/sporting_news/3d/b6/ben-roethlisberger-031320-getty-ftrjpg_91jsmbfubabb19t85oh7i73ul.jpg?t=-737917016&w=500&quality=80 (Getty Images) https://images.daznservices.com/di/library/sporting_news/64/8f/ben-roethlisberger-060418-getty-ftrjpg_zv1n4a9cwsga1be2yra7vndx8.jpg?t=-891330085&w=500&quality=80 (Getty Images) https://images.daznservices.com/di/library/sporting_news/25/67/terry-bradshaw-012918-getty-ftr_lu0vkoacvap818ctccxg1vzun.jpg?t=1120344225&w=500&quality=80 “I would give it to Ben,” Bradshaw told hosts Ron Cook and Joe Starkey on 93.7 The Fan during an interview last week. “His numbers far exceed mine. I may have more Super Bowls, but he is a much better quarterback. I wasn’t bad in my era, but he is big, strong, accurate and puts up monstrous numbers and has two Super Bowls. I passed that baton on to him, gladly. I absolutely have no problem with that. He deserves it.”IYER: Why Jameis Winston-to-Steelers rumors make senseThis would seem to be among the least controversial statements Bradshaw has ever made. It wasn’t even the most debatable comment he made that day. Later in the same interview, he suggested new Tampa Bay quarterback Tom Brady isn’t the best ever at his position, instead nominating Roger Staubach, Dan Fouts and Dan Marino as superior in his eyes.And yet, with the vacuum of live sporting events persisting, the Ben vs. Brad debate has persisted enough to be revisited Monday on FS1’s Speak for Yourself, with Steelers legend Rod Woodson declaring, “I think Terry Bradshaw is the best quarterback that ever played for the Pittsburgh Steelers.”Oddly, the case Woodson presented in support of his position primarily involved Bradshaw’s work as a broadcaster and entertainer, but he was firm in his stance.And neither was he alone. An online poll taken by the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review placed Bradshaw ahead by a 60-34 margin, and that was with more than 4,500 responses. It was posted in a column by John Steigerwald, a longtime sportscaster in the city, that also touted Bradshaw’s superiority, so maybe it wasn’t 100 percent scientific. But my own Twitter poll, with the two contestants listed alphabetically and no editorializing, went even heavier for Bradshaw, 68 percent to 32 percent.